tv Sanjay Gupta MD CNN December 9, 2012 7:30am-8:00am EST
>> yes. >> and was there any pizza. >> no. >> and then what happened. >> they jumped out and pelted me with eggs. >> funny stuff. now to "sanjay gupta m.d." which started right now. hey, there, thanks for being with us. actor frankie muniz is here. he had amy know stroke and he's 27 years old. but first consider this. hoarding as a mental illness. "under the microscope." you know, the medical world is buzzing about the knew diagnostic and & statistical manual of disorders, dsm. this so-called bible of mental illness defines what is and what isn't a mental illness.
i can't underscore enough what a big deal this could be. they just ratified, for example, many changes, many revisions, based on the latest search. so today i wanted to give you an example of something you may have never thought about or even heard of. hoarding. it now has a category of its own. >> if my mother's unable to clean up the house, i don't know what will happen. we are doing this as a last-ditch effort. she's hit rock bottom. >> gail is the dean and a proffers at boston university of school social work. she's written extensively on hoarding. thanks so much for joining us, professor. appreciate it. >> glad to. >> you know, we all collect stuff. it's the first thing i sort of thought of when i was reading about this. what constitutes diagnosable compulsive hoarding.
>> one of the hall marks is difficulty discarding, another is the clutter that results if there -- from that when people try to deal with a disorganized pile of things they've accumulated and that has to cause impairment or distress to qualify. >> so when you're talking about the specific difference between a hoarder, a collector about someone who's just disorganized which a lot of people are probably raising their hands at home, it has to do with the impairment it causes on a person's life? >> absolutely. somebody who collects things is trying to accumulate an interesting array that represents a category of objects. so they take a lot of care to pick out one or two things that is specific to filling the gaps in their collection. but it doesn't cause them impairment or distress and, in fact, they enjoy it and talk with other people and it's a valuable set of objects. but hoarding is very different. >> now, the big news here seems to be that hoarding is no longer
considering part of ocd, which is interesting. in fact, your co-author, randy frost, he said some aspects of hoarding don't fit the ocd pattern. my understanding is this is a real change. he described it more as people going into this disowes yaive state where they simply forget they don't have enough money, they don't have enough space to obtain the things that they're obtaining. >> that's true. people who have a hoarding problem collect and when they collect they a get very excited about what they're doing. it kind of looks like a high. it's something we definitely don't see in an obsessive compulsive problem. >> something else to note, forcibly cleaning out a hoarder's home is the worst thing you can do, they say. why is that? >> it's because -- well, imagine if somebody came into your home and took away all the stuff without you having any say about it. of course, you'd be very upset. people who hoard are very attached to their object and
from their point of view, these are valuable things or at least things that i want the possibility of going through before they let go of them. so it's very upsetting to someone. >> so how does someone get help, either from a friend or a family. what are they to do in a situation like this? >> the best thing they can do is learn something about hoarding. go to the website, ocfoundation.org and take a look at the hoarding section because it's important why people save what they save and what it means to them. and then after that they can try to be of assistance in trying to find help for the person. >> it's amazing. just this update, it's fascinating. we wanted to give this example of it. thanks so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> coming up, he just had a stroke. he's in his mid-20s. actor frankie mao sneeze is here
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dad, you know the other day at the store when i pretended not to know you? >> yeah. that was a new low. >> well, there was this girl. >> really. >> i'm sorry. >> i know. >> you know, it seems as if we've seen frankie muniz grow up right before our eyes as malcolm in "malcolm in the middle." he's a drummer in kings foil. he wrote this. i was in the hospital last friday. i suffered a mini stroke, which was not fun at all. i have to start taking care of my body. getting old. here's the think. frankie's only 26. this week he turned 27. he joins us now via skype from arizona. frankie, thanks for joining us. first things first. you just turned 27. happy birthday. >> thank you very much. >> first of all, are you
feeling? >> i feel pretty good. i don't know how to explain it other than i forced myself to calm down, to relax. it's not in me to do that. i i'm i've been running around, like a crazy person, do this, do that. this week i'm trying to relax, a bit lethargic since the whole thing happened, but i'm happy that i'm already and going on with my life. >> a lot of people are certainly happy you're doing okay. you may know, frankie. this happens to be my area of expertise. i'm a neurosurgeon. i had a couple of things because i think this is very instructive and hopefully important for our viewers to hear. you were told that you suffered a mini stroke by your doctor, also known as a transient ischemic attack, and that means the blood temporarily stops going the brain and people will experience stroke-like symptoms for no more than 24 hours.
can you tell me specific look i what happened to you? >> i worked out last friday morning, felt fine, felt normal, felt great. decided to go on a motorcycle ride. got on my bike, made it maybe a mile from my house and started realizing like my vision in my write eye was bothering me. i thought there was something on my visor at first. i kept wiping it and lifting my visor and realized it was my eyes. by the time i got a little further, i kind of lost all peripheral vision and sort of felt like i was losing my balance and started feeling really, really uncomfortable and couldn't pinpoint, you know, why. never felt that before. never had an experience like that. never knew what i was going through. >> a lot of people are going to wonder. there's obviously risk factors, hypertension, high cholesterol. even with that dwrorks you're so young. why do doctors thing you had this? >> i'm still going through the process of going through more tests and trying to figure that
out. from the emergency room they diagnosed me with a tia mini stroke and recommended a few neurosurgeons for me to go see, which i'm doing. i'm still trying to figure it out because all the -- all the things of the people who are usually at higher risk or having the tia. i don't fit into those categorying as far as age. i mean i'm very -- i consider myself very healthy. i've never drank in my life. i've never smoked a cigarette or been near a drug, you know what i mean? i take a lot of pride in that. so, you know, all of those things, i'm 125 pounds, i run three miles a day, i lift weights. i do everything i can to live a life -- ahealthy lifestyle, but, you know, it's definitely a "wake-up call." you know, when you're young -- when it's you, you feel invincible almost, you know what i mean? you don't think that anything you -- you hear about all these
things that people can have and things that happen. i mean even car accidents and stuff. when it's yourself, i mean me, i feel invincible. but now it make mess go, oh wait. this is my body. i need to take care of it. i need do whatever i can to stay healthy. i want to live to be a very, you know, old man and, you know, hopefully this isn't the sign of things to come and hopefully i can, you know, get on top of it now and find out what it is and i won't have it again. >> yeah. and we all hope that. i think what you're saying again, very important. people sometimes need a little brush with a health problem of some sort. nobody wishes that on anybody, but to the extent that people are hearing your story now, it makes them do a better job of checking themselves out. frankie, i'm a big fan. i'm so glad to see you, meet you over the satellite here, and i'm really glad you're doing well. >> thank you very much. thanks for having me. i really appreciate it.
byu basketball coach dave rhodes, he's been involved with this program called coach versus cancer. this year he tried to take it to the annual tournament after fighting his own cancer battle. in fact, he now counts himself as a survivor. for the first time he got to take his byu basketball team to the coaches versus cancer tournament. what makes it poignant is his battle he had a few years ago with cancer. >> if we can do something to help find a cure, it's foernl me. i understand how these people feel. >> his symptoms came on suddenly, on an airplane, in fact, returning from a vacation. >> i got really sick to where i was light-headed. i couldn't actually sit up, so they laid me down, moved some of the passengers in and they brought oxygen in and cleared
the plane and then brought the medics on and carted me off the plane and took me to the hospital. and i had ten units of blood transfused and they found the mass and went in and removed it and then told me i had cancer. >> doctors removed the tumor from his pancreas along with the splooen and the blood clot that developed after surgery. he was back on the court. two months after surgery he continued to take his team to the ncaa tournament. he lead them to their first appearance to the sweet 16 in 30 years i feel like i've been given a second chance. there was a real possibility that my time here was going to be numbered, and now i feel like everything i get to do is really just a blessing for me. >> and i'll tell you, it's that message of appreciate for life that rose is looking to drive home to his own players and to his own family every day. coming up, we have a man who
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he wants to capture that formula so you and i can live longer. >> you know, it captures the imagination, dan, for sure. welcome back to the back to th. people always ask about this, they want to know what do other people in other parts of the world know that we don't, how much of this is genes, and how much it lifestyle. >> 20% of how long the average person lives is genes, the other 80% is lifestyle and environment. >> the thing that people always point to in the united states is stress. it's a vague term, means different things to different people. is stress here in the united states, we obviously know what it's like, what is it like in other places, is there less stress, did you find? >> yes, you tell people you found a blue zone, and people think well if i lived in a place like that, i would not have stress, but they worry about their kids, finances, they worry
about their health, but what they have that we don't have, are daily rituals to shed that stress. in some blue zones, it's prayer, in others, it's happy hour. in one, it was naps, people take a nap, at least five days a week, have a third less heart disease than those who don't take a nap. it's just 15 minutes a day to unwind the inflammation and anxiety of every day life. >> i would love to be able to do that. it's hard, and there are other things you mentioned, the idea of investing in your friends, what did you mean by that? >> we know the happiest people in america interact face to face about six hours a day. also, who you hang out with has
a huge impact on your health behaviors. they are as infectious as catching a cold or a flu. the blue zones were not on diets, the people were not in exercise programs, but they proactively, or were born into a group of people that supported the right habits. >> do people take care of each other, to either better, go to the doctor -- what is it about that interaction that is so preventive or helpful. >> we live in a zone that does not promise friends. loneliness, you have fewer than one friend that cares about you on a bad day, your life expectancy drops eight year. but you go places, and people are in live long social networks where they commit to each other. if things go well for them, they share the wealth, and if
something goes bad, someone has your back. i sat down with one of the groups, five 102-year-old women, and they're still there. >> psychologically, it's not as communal as maybe it was in times past here. >> so 15 years ago, the average american had three good friends. we're now down to about 1.5 good friends per person. we're watching over four hours of tv a day, and not enough good tv like this right here, but it's this interaction, which should be a uniform prescription doctors ought to be giving
patients. we know that volunteers have lower rates of heart disease, lower bmi, and lower health care costs. >> everyone at home right now is counting their friends. it's always a joy to have you on the show, i think you make everybody happier as well. great to have you. >> thanks. >> a check of your top stories minutes away. next, something we might be able to learn from that recent tragedy with a nfl player in kansas city. twins. i didn't see them coming.
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girlfriend and drove to the chief's practice facility and took his own life. that left teammates, coaches, and a lot of people wondering why. there are reports that they fought, but we may never know for sure why belcher did this. i want you to hear what brady quinn had to say. >> i know when it happened i was thinking what could i have done different. when you ask someone how they're doing, do you really mean it, when you answer back, are you telling the truth? we live in a society of social nes networks, and that's feine and stuff, but we're more connected to our phone than the relationships in front of us. >> it struck me, i think he is right, put down that phone, th